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	<title>Comments on: T-Mobile Blackberry Curve 8320 on Wi-Fi UMA and Edge</title>
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		<title>By: ter450</title>
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		<dc:creator>ter450</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy smoke, this thread helps me.  Have had tmo@home for about a year. Originally had connectivity UMA issues &amp; after 5 tmo techs could not resolve.  Ended up being a router software upgrade (with tmo linksys router).  Cruising along (3 phones on account w/o issues).  Even upgrades to 2 of 3 with new OS on BB curve ... wife does not want upgrade :/ (i love the new video features).

Wanted to upgrade router to N-wifi for extended range, but was concerned not to have UMA.  Doing my research, I found that DDRT supports UMA.  Scored Linksys WRT150N Wireless-N for $42 (refurb) including S&amp;H.  Installed DDRT and had UMA running flawless.  After slow tweaks over a month, my UMA stopped working.  Realized (reading your thread), I had turned off VPN/IPSEC in router.  Will enable this evening.

BTW, I can recommend the above router and DDRT OS install with tmobile UMA, works nicely together (though not supported by T-mobile).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy smoke, this thread helps me.  Have had tmo@home for about a year. Originally had connectivity UMA issues &amp; after 5 tmo techs could not resolve.  Ended up being a router software upgrade (with tmo linksys router).  Cruising along (3 phones on account w/o issues).  Even upgrades to 2 of 3 with new OS on BB curve &#8230; wife does not want upgrade :/ (i love the new video features).</p>
<p>Wanted to upgrade router to N-wifi for extended range, but was concerned not to have UMA.  Doing my research, I found that DDRT supports UMA.  Scored Linksys WRT150N Wireless-N for $42 (refurb) including S&amp;H.  Installed DDRT and had UMA running flawless.  After slow tweaks over a month, my UMA stopped working.  Realized (reading your thread), I had turned off VPN/IPSEC in router.  Will enable this evening.</p>
<p>BTW, I can recommend the above router and DDRT OS install with tmobile UMA, works nicely together (though not supported by T-mobile).</p>
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		<title>By: bnrosman</title>
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		<dc:creator>bnrosman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started having the problem yesterday. I upgraded my Curve to OS 4.5.0.81 released on  Oct 20,2008. 

UMA has been solid. I took a walk with the dogs, talking on the phone and it stayed up in UMA. 
I also use FIOS. Blackberry fixed it with their relase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started having the problem yesterday. I upgraded my Curve to OS 4.5.0.81 released on  Oct 20,2008. </p>
<p>UMA has been solid. I took a walk with the dogs, talking on the phone and it stayed up in UMA.<br />
I also use FIOS. Blackberry fixed it with their relase.</p>
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		<title>By: need help on WiFi UMA etc - BlackBerryForums.com : Your Number One BlackBerry Community</title>
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		<dc:creator>need help on WiFi UMA etc - BlackBerryForums.com : Your Number One BlackBerry Community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dr. Safran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Safran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me in for not refreshing fast enough...

Sounds like I&#039;m going to have to get me some FIOS when it comes out in my area.

Thanks for stopping by!  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me in for not refreshing fast enough&#8230;</p>
<p>Sounds like I&#8217;m going to have to get me some FIOS when it comes out in my area.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by!  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Safran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Safran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry in which way?  Is there something you&#039;d like to retract?  Chalk it up to monkeys on keyboards.

Thanks for providing the solution that worked for you.  My biggest pet peeve is when I&#039;m googling for a solution to something only to find the PERFECT question with a follow-up that says, &quot;figured it out!&quot; with no what that figuring out was.  Grr!

So, again, thanks for not being that guy.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry in which way?  Is there something you&#8217;d like to retract?  Chalk it up to monkeys on keyboards.</p>
<p>Thanks for providing the solution that worked for you.  My biggest pet peeve is when I&#8217;m googling for a solution to something only to find the PERFECT question with a follow-up that says, &#8220;figured it out!&#8221; with no what that figuring out was.  Grr!</p>
<p>So, again, thanks for not being that guy.  <img src='http://www.100monkeys.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kelzipan</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelzipan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And apparently I don&#039;t hit refresh enough either.  Thanks for replying so swiftly.  All is working.  Yay UMA and boo to weird battery recycling needs.  The FIOS is very fast.  My old 20&quot; TV looked like someone had wiped it with Windex when we got FIOS for TV.  Comcast looked good but this is much better.  I imagine the HDTV is about the same for both though.  12mbps.  Nice.  :)  I&#039;m still not a fan of the FIOS channel guide for the TV and the fact there isn&#039;t a public (must be a registered user) web channel guide.  Googling is my friend and now your site is too.  Thanks again!  And yes, this is a very popular post!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And apparently I don&#8217;t hit refresh enough either.  Thanks for replying so swiftly.  All is working.  Yay UMA and boo to weird battery recycling needs.  The FIOS is very fast.  My old 20&#8243; TV looked like someone had wiped it with Windex when we got FIOS for TV.  Comcast looked good but this is much better.  I imagine the HDTV is about the same for both though.  12mbps.  Nice.  <img src='http://www.100monkeys.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;m still not a fan of the FIOS channel guide for the TV and the fact there isn&#8217;t a public (must be a registered user) web channel guide.  Googling is my friend and now your site is too.  Thanks again!  And yes, this is a very popular post!  <img src='http://www.100monkeys.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kelzipan</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelzipan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry my post is no longer awaiting moderation.  :(  I figured out my Linksys WRT54G has a checkbox at Security &gt; VPN &gt; IPsec passthrough.  It was already checked.  And the &quot;radio path unavailable&quot; seems to be some random T-Mobile error that is fixed by recycling power by REMOVING THE BATTERY (simply powering on/off does not work) at some unspecified interval (every now and then, daily, etc.)  I don&#039;t even know if I needed the AP now to bypass FIOS but everything is working.  Continue using your powers for good and not for evil.  Thanks for the IPsec heads up and take care all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry my post is no longer awaiting moderation.  <img src='http://www.100monkeys.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   I figured out my Linksys WRT54G has a checkbox at Security &gt; VPN &gt; IPsec passthrough.  It was already checked.  And the &#8220;radio path unavailable&#8221; seems to be some random T-Mobile error that is fixed by recycling power by REMOVING THE BATTERY (simply powering on/off does not work) at some unspecified interval (every now and then, daily, etc.)  I don&#8217;t even know if I needed the AP now to bypass FIOS but everything is working.  Continue using your powers for good and not for evil.  Thanks for the IPsec heads up and take care all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Safran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Safran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who knew a year later this would be such a popular post entry...  :-P

Hi Kelzipan,

How are you liking FIOS?  It&#039;s not available in my area yet but I have mad bandwidth with Comcast (around 12mbps).

Anyhow, it&#039;s not port forwarding you want.  More than likely, your Linksys is not blocking those ports.  Those instructions are more for corporate users with firewalls.

Your first issue is knowing if your Curve can see your Linksys.  This can be done through the Manage Connections app.  I&#039;m assuming you already set up your phone to use the existing Wi-Fi network.  In Manage Connections, select &quot;Service Status.&quot;  That will tell you how strong your Wi-Fi connection is and if you have a UMA connection.

If you haven&#039;t actually connected to your Wi-Fi yet, you can do it through the Manage Connections app as well.  I hope this helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who knew a year later this would be such a popular post entry&#8230;  <img src='http://www.100monkeys.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hi Kelzipan,</p>
<p>How are you liking FIOS?  It&#8217;s not available in my area yet but I have mad bandwidth with Comcast (around 12mbps).</p>
<p>Anyhow, it&#8217;s not port forwarding you want.  More than likely, your Linksys is not blocking those ports.  Those instructions are more for corporate users with firewalls.</p>
<p>Your first issue is knowing if your Curve can see your Linksys.  This can be done through the Manage Connections app.  I&#8217;m assuming you already set up your phone to use the existing Wi-Fi network.  In Manage Connections, select &#8220;Service Status.&#8221;  That will tell you how strong your Wi-Fi connection is and if you have a UMA connection.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t actually connected to your Wi-Fi yet, you can do it through the Manage Connections app as well.  I hope this helps!</p>
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		<title>By: kelzipan</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelzipan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not quite a nerd (I&#039;m a wanna-be) but would appreciate some help.  :)  After getting FIOS TV/internet/phone my Curve would not work in the basement anymore saying various things like &quot;call failed&quot; or &quot;radio path not available&quot;.  I just successfully added a Linksys router as an access point to the FIOS router.  Laptop can connect to the AP and browse the internet, etc.  I am now trying to figure out how to open the ports per your post.  I&#039;ve logged into the Linksys router and am at the port forwarding screen.  I&#039;m just confused as to what address I&#039;m sending the ports.  This is going to sound extremely dumb...  I&#039;m sending ports 500 and 4500 to my Curve?  And if so, how do I determine its IP address?  Any other links or advice you could send me?  Thanks for the post and thanks in advance if you can help me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not quite a nerd (I&#8217;m a wanna-be) but would appreciate some help.  <img src='http://www.100monkeys.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   After getting FIOS TV/internet/phone my Curve would not work in the basement anymore saying various things like &#8220;call failed&#8221; or &#8220;radio path not available&#8221;.  I just successfully added a Linksys router as an access point to the FIOS router.  Laptop can connect to the AP and browse the internet, etc.  I am now trying to figure out how to open the ports per your post.  I&#8217;ve logged into the Linksys router and am at the port forwarding screen.  I&#8217;m just confused as to what address I&#8217;m sending the ports.  This is going to sound extremely dumb&#8230;  I&#8217;m sending ports 500 and 4500 to my Curve?  And if so, how do I determine its IP address?  Any other links or advice you could send me?  Thanks for the post and thanks in advance if you can help me.</p>
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		<title>By: kcsamerica</title>
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		<dc:creator>kcsamerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all&#039;s help; I wish I could be of help to you, undertone.

I returned my Blackberry to T-Mobile and might just go back to T-Mobile once I get things straightened out. I&#039;ve been with Sprint for nearly 10 years and they&#039;ve been giving me too many headaches lately. Although after threatening to drop them, I see they have some really cool phones on the horizon! Grrr, decisions, decisions!

P.S. Any experience with bringing your own unlocked phone to T-Mobile? Since they subsidize the costs when they cell you a phone and you pay it back with your monthly bill, it only makes sense your bill is cheaper when you bring your own...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all&#8217;s help; I wish I could be of help to you, undertone.</p>
<p>I returned my Blackberry to T-Mobile and might just go back to T-Mobile once I get things straightened out. I&#8217;ve been with Sprint for nearly 10 years and they&#8217;ve been giving me too many headaches lately. Although after threatening to drop them, I see they have some really cool phones on the horizon! Grrr, decisions, decisions!</p>
<p>P.S. Any experience with bringing your own unlocked phone to T-Mobile? Since they subsidize the costs when they cell you a phone and you pay it back with your monthly bill, it only makes sense your bill is cheaper when you bring your own&#8230;?</p>
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